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	<title>Comments on: Pregnant Thomas Beatie on Oprah Winfrey Show.</title>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no retard  its called sperm donation and they both have &quot;girlie parts&quot; but he wasnt really going thru cycles cus of the testosterone then he stopped so he cud have a baby and i think its great that they love eachother and want a family so shut up its not groos get it into our midget brain that its OK TO BE DIFFERENT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no retard  its called sperm donation and they both have &#8220;girlie parts&#8221; but he wasnt really going thru cycles cus of the testosterone then he stopped so he cud have a baby and i think its great that they love eachother and want a family so shut up its not groos get it into our midget brain that its OK TO BE DIFFERENT
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		<title>By: diana</title>
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		<dc:creator>diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ewwwwwww i am doing a english paper on this shyt and it is freaking me out and i am not the type to be freaked out so does the wife have a dick and the dad have a pussy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ewwwwwww i am doing a english paper on this shyt and it is freaking me out and i am not the type to be freaked out so does the wife have a dick and the dad have a pussy
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		<title>By: crazy</title>
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		<dc:creator>crazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once this guy&#039;s daughter is born she will be like a celebrity&#039;s child and will not have any privacy and having paparazzi always chasing her. i myself think that this is a publicity act and that Thomas/Tracy hasn&#039;t thought about the consequencs fo the baby. Will she be called a freak because of her father/mother?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once this guy&#8217;s daughter is born she will be like a celebrity&#8217;s child and will not have any privacy and having paparazzi always chasing her. i myself think that this is a publicity act and that Thomas/Tracy hasn&#8217;t thought about the consequencs fo the baby. Will she be called a freak because of her father/mother?
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		<title>By: Daddy or Mommy? &#171; the juicy peach</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daddy or Mommy? &#171; the juicy peach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] course, there are people who support it, and there are others who are highly against it. The blog, Stupid Celebrities Gossip, bashes the Beaties’ by saying that is was an April Fools’ Day prank, or a publicity stunt to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] course, there are people who support it, and there are others who are highly against it. The blog, Stupid Celebrities Gossip, bashes the Beaties’ by saying that is was an April Fools’ Day prank, or a publicity stunt to [...]
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		<title>By: Westchaser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Westchaser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thomas Beatie, if being a bearded woman wasn&#039;t enough to qualify you to join the circus, now you can for certain as a he-she with a baby in your womb.

For your convenience, here&#039;s Ringling Brothers and Barnum &amp; Bailey Circus&#039; phone number: 1-800-664-5056

As for Oprah&#039;s comments about the he-she &quot;being accepted in today&#039;s world&quot; and &quot;we&#039;re all part of a higher conscious&quot;, neither are part of God&#039;s law.  But, God will tell you Himself when you&#039;re name is called.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thomas Beatie, if being a bearded woman wasn&#8217;t enough to qualify you to join the circus, now you can for certain as a he-she with a baby in your womb.</p>
<p>For your convenience, here&#8217;s Ringling Brothers and Barnum &amp; Bailey Circus&#8217; phone number: 1-800-664-5056</p>
<p>As for Oprah&#8217;s comments about the he-she &#8220;being accepted in today&#8217;s world&#8221; and &#8220;we&#8217;re all part of a higher conscious&#8221;, neither are part of God&#8217;s law.  But, God will tell you Himself when you&#8217;re name is called.
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		<title>By: Pregnant Celebrities &#187; Pregnant Thomas Beatie on Oprah Winfrey Show.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pregnant Celebrities &#187; Pregnant Thomas Beatie on Oprah Winfrey Show.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 13:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] unknown wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptDoctors have confirmed that Thomas Beatie’s pregnancy was possible since he has kept his female reproductive organs. Thomas and his wife Nancy, 45, were expecting their baby to be born in July. Many critics doubted his story. &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] unknown wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptDoctors have confirmed that Thomas Beatie’s pregnancy was possible since he has kept his female reproductive organs. Thomas and his wife Nancy, 45, were expecting their baby to be born in July. Many critics doubted his story. &#8230; [...]
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		<title>By: Simply_Curious</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 03:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does any one have his photo when he was still a woman? I want to know how he looks like when his still a female. So please do upload if anyone have it.



Please refer -
http://stupidcelebrities.net/2008/04/05/when-thomas-beatie-was-still-tracy-lagondino-photos/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does any one have his photo when he was still a woman? I want to know how he looks like when his still a female. So please do upload if anyone have it.</p>
<p>Please refer -<br />
<a href="http://stupidcelebrities.net/2008/04/05/when-thomas-beatie-was-still-tracy-lagondino-photos/" rel="nofollow">http://stupidcelebrities.net/2008/04/05/when-thomas-beatie-was-still-tracy-lagondino-photos/</a>
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		<title>By: OMG</title>
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		<dc:creator>OMG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 06:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about just being happy with who you are and how you were born? Except for those who are born with some kind of disease, disfiguration etc… theren is a reason to be operated. Sex change is mutilating the body and that’s what bothers me. Future Frankenstein’s because of the operations gone wild and wrong.  There are sooo many unhappy people because of their images. Sometimes they make it worse. The doctors are the ones having the most fun with all of the cash coming through. The media love these stories. Even the people who do piercing and tattoos etc… hey, don’t get me wrong, I would like one or two tribal tattoos, I love art.  Here’s the thing, how much is too much when you can’t even recognize the person, your son, your own daughter, parents etc… Do we love our selves less each day? I cannot applaud a parent who helps a young child change their sex with hormones and with what ever there is out there. We need to teach our children to love them selves more so, than just helping them change their image. A child can change his/her ideas in any time.  At least wait until he/she is an adult. 

It’s interesting to hear that Thomas Beatie did not feel that she was a boy trapped in a girl’s body. It’s interesting to know that she was first interested in the same sex in her early twenties. I get confused because some say she’s a lesbian and she calls herself a man, now a “legally” man. This is a crazy and confused world. Just because a person has dark skin and his skin has changed because of a disease like Vitiligo, it does not make them a Caucasian. A person should not forget where they came from. I can change a lot of my features but it will never change who I really am since birth. People tend to want to be something else or somebody else except for themselves. Take Jocelyn Wildenstein who has features of a cat. It does not make her cat although people call her cat woman. What made her so unhappy of herself and her looks? What triggered this change… genes? Everything is about genes these days. 

People can go about their business, but why go through the media? They are making this issue everybody else’s business. It would have been better for them if they kept it private…. Why? Not for their sake, (although they need emotional and mental stability) but for the sake of their new baby girl. Although, one would like to educate the children about all of theses issues at the end they have to deal with other people in school, in the family etc… I think they are making there child’s life more difficult. No matter what and no matter where you hide the truth always comes out from people you least expect. We have to put ourselves in the child perspective. 

What makes a boy a boy and a girl a girl? How do we explain to our children all of these cases? As for myself I try to include it in my multicultural lecture and at least try to teach  children respect  for others, their ways, their culture, religions, beliefs,  etc… Trying to explain Thomas Beatie’s case to my own child, a nine year old boy, has been very difficult because he just can’t figure it out. It does not make him stupid or ignorant. He simply does not understand. He saw it on the news after watching a kids program. Thomas Beatie’s daughter will not be a different case. She will wonder and ask a lot of questions. No one can assure she will understand. 

On the birth of Thomas Beatie little girl; would she prefer the doctors to say: “Congratulations on your child!” instead of “Congratulations on your little baby girl!”  The first thing any parent, who’s had a child, always asks: what is it? Is it a boy or a girl? A baby cannot name him/her self. I cannot name my self; I am either a man or a woman. Gay, lesbian, bisexual, transsexual, transgender … My apologies in advance for what I’m about to say, but I’m afraid of what’s coming next. These are being “accepted” by society a bit. I’m happy in one hand because it will stop most of the abuse and discrimination against them. On the other hand we have zoosexuality or zoophiles, &#039;consensual&#039; incest, ephebophilia, pansexual, polysexual, asexual, pederasty, necrophiliac, pedophilia, nymphomania, satyriasis and so forth. As unbelievable as it may sound, sooner or later some of these would love to fight for respect, acceptance and their human rights in society. These human behaviors have existed through all our history and in all culture. Is true identity being lost? I guess nobody will ever be “sexually”, “humanly”, “emotionally”, “mentally” and “spiritually” satisfied. Would we have to accept every change with in time? This makes me think… how far will human rights go? I’m afraid,  because politicians would accept anything for a few votes even if it means to destroy a whole society, a country, or our world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about just being happy with who you are and how you were born? Except for those who are born with some kind of disease, disfiguration etc… theren is a reason to be operated. Sex change is mutilating the body and that’s what bothers me. Future Frankenstein’s because of the operations gone wild and wrong.  There are sooo many unhappy people because of their images. Sometimes they make it worse. The doctors are the ones having the most fun with all of the cash coming through. The media love these stories. Even the people who do piercing and tattoos etc… hey, don’t get me wrong, I would like one or two tribal tattoos, I love art.  Here’s the thing, how much is too much when you can’t even recognize the person, your son, your own daughter, parents etc… Do we love our selves less each day? I cannot applaud a parent who helps a young child change their sex with hormones and with what ever there is out there. We need to teach our children to love them selves more so, than just helping them change their image. A child can change his/her ideas in any time.  At least wait until he/she is an adult. </p>
<p>It’s interesting to hear that Thomas Beatie did not feel that she was a boy trapped in a girl’s body. It’s interesting to know that she was first interested in the same sex in her early twenties. I get confused because some say she’s a lesbian and she calls herself a man, now a “legally” man. This is a crazy and confused world. Just because a person has dark skin and his skin has changed because of a disease like Vitiligo, it does not make them a Caucasian. A person should not forget where they came from. I can change a lot of my features but it will never change who I really am since birth. People tend to want to be something else or somebody else except for themselves. Take Jocelyn Wildenstein who has features of a cat. It does not make her cat although people call her cat woman. What made her so unhappy of herself and her looks? What triggered this change… genes? Everything is about genes these days. </p>
<p>People can go about their business, but why go through the media? They are making this issue everybody else’s business. It would have been better for them if they kept it private…. Why? Not for their sake, (although they need emotional and mental stability) but for the sake of their new baby girl. Although, one would like to educate the children about all of theses issues at the end they have to deal with other people in school, in the family etc… I think they are making there child’s life more difficult. No matter what and no matter where you hide the truth always comes out from people you least expect. We have to put ourselves in the child perspective. </p>
<p>What makes a boy a boy and a girl a girl? How do we explain to our children all of these cases? As for myself I try to include it in my multicultural lecture and at least try to teach  children respect  for others, their ways, their culture, religions, beliefs,  etc… Trying to explain Thomas Beatie’s case to my own child, a nine year old boy, has been very difficult because he just can’t figure it out. It does not make him stupid or ignorant. He simply does not understand. He saw it on the news after watching a kids program. Thomas Beatie’s daughter will not be a different case. She will wonder and ask a lot of questions. No one can assure she will understand. </p>
<p>On the birth of Thomas Beatie little girl; would she prefer the doctors to say: “Congratulations on your child!” instead of “Congratulations on your little baby girl!”  The first thing any parent, who’s had a child, always asks: what is it? Is it a boy or a girl? A baby cannot name him/her self. I cannot name my self; I am either a man or a woman. Gay, lesbian, bisexual, transsexual, transgender … My apologies in advance for what I’m about to say, but I’m afraid of what’s coming next. These are being “accepted” by society a bit. I’m happy in one hand because it will stop most of the abuse and discrimination against them. On the other hand we have zoosexuality or zoophiles, &#8216;consensual&#8217; incest, ephebophilia, pansexual, polysexual, asexual, pederasty, necrophiliac, pedophilia, nymphomania, satyriasis and so forth. As unbelievable as it may sound, sooner or later some of these would love to fight for respect, acceptance and their human rights in society. These human behaviors have existed through all our history and in all culture. Is true identity being lost? I guess nobody will ever be “sexually”, “humanly”, “emotionally”, “mentally” and “spiritually” satisfied. Would we have to accept every change with in time? This makes me think… how far will human rights go? I’m afraid,  because politicians would accept anything for a few votes even if it means to destroy a whole society, a country, or our world.
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